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Hey folks, I am running WM5 on my MPX200, and I did the install myself, I have the file created specifically for my device, and now I am trying to crack the security so I can share with others.
I need to know if anyone knows how to Change the Device ID on a MPX200, or where to find it in the Registry.
By the way I have to say WM5 on the MPX200 truely is the best OS, Hands Down, the system is so much faster it is unreal.
Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE I predict this will be a short thread. Why do you predict that? As long as he doesn't distribute the ROM or any illegal files, discussion is fair game.
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Hey darkoverlord what build do you have?
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So it looks like the hex edit of the rom worked?
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Very cool. I'll be interested to see if this gets leaked like the WM2003 ROM did. darkoverlord, does the WM5 you have require some installation to a SD card?
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QUOTE (smeg36 @ Nov 30 2005, 11:55 AM) Very cool. I'll be interested to see if this gets leaked like the WM2003 ROM did. darkoverlord, does the WM5 you have require some installation to a SD card? OK FOLKS, Yes KingDaddy you are correct, I owe you big time, I will put something special together for you. Smeg, yes you have to have at least a 32mb sd card in to install it, and as I just tested one of mine, by removeing the SD Card to take some pictures, while the phone is on, it will shut itself down. Finally Mochomorek, here are the pics of my ROM and some other pics too. Hey did you ever get your SIM Card Contacts to be read, as there is no SIM Manager on the OS. Cheers Guys Dark It seems as though I can not add any more images, so lets see if this works (IMG: http://premium1.uploadit.org/darkoverlord/MPX200/100_3305.jpg) (IMG: http://premium1.uploadit.org/darkoverlord/MPX200/100_3304.jpg) (IMG: http://premium1.uploadit.org/darkoverlord/MPX200/100_3287.jpg) (IMG: http://premium1.uploadit.org/darkoverlord/MPX200/100_3290.jpg) (IMG: http://premium1.uploadit.org/darkoverlord/MPX200/100_3291.jpg) (IMG: http://premium1.uploadit.org/darkoverlord/MPX200/100_3293.jpg) (IMG: http://premium1.uploadit.org/darkoverlord/MPX200/100_3298.jpg) (IMG: http://premium1.uploadit.org/darkoverlord/MPX200/100_3300.jpg)
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WM5Here's another person who appears to have already been successful.
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QUOTE (threevok @ Nov 30 2005, 05:37 PM) WM5Here's another person who appears to have already been successful. Wow, like that's not illegal... That guy has balls.
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QUOTE (Sean @ Nov 30 2005, 01:41 PM) Wow, like that's not illegal... That guy has balls. Shhhhhh....If you tell them they will come.....
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So is it possible for every mpx200 owner, in whatever country to update their phone to wm5? and, does is run better than 2003? My phone is way slow and buggy on 2003
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QUOTE (gitkua @ Dec 2 2005, 03:05 AM) So is it possible for every mpx200 owner, in whatever country to update their phone to wm5? and, does is run better than 2003? My phone is way slow and buggy on 2003 Fair Enough
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QUOTE (darkoverlord @ Dec 2 2005, 12:03 PM) I can currently do it for anyone that wants to send me there phone, and PayPal $20 USD for Canada & USA, and $25 for International, then I can do it, and send your phone back to you. cant u just sell the rom,,, and tell us how to update it,, I can give u $10.00 I have the USB Cable and the motorola updater... because I dont want to be mailing my phone...
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Watch it guys, I don't want to have to remove his thread. This is getting pretty close to (technically already is) firmware offering/requesting.
I can uderstand some of the arguments for piracy. Some of them even make very good, valid points. But making money off something that isn't yours to sell is just illegal. No ifs, ands, or buts. I remember when WM2003 first came out for the MPx200, and there was a guy selling it on ebay in much the same way. As I recall, he abruptly stopped. I think he may have gotten a call (or more) from MS.
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QUOTE (darkoverlord @ Nov 30 2005, 07:24 AM) Hey folks, I am running WM5 on my MPX200, and I did the install myself, I have the file created specifically for my device, and now I am trying to crack the security so I can share with others. I need to know if anyone knows how to Change the Device ID on a MPX200, or where to find it in the Registry. By the way I have to say WM5 on the MPX200 truely is the best OS, Hands Down, the system is so much faster it is unreal. Thanks in advance. Dark I would say the thread should be closed now. The first post was you asking for help, and commenting that the work was to be able to "share" it with the community. And now you are talking about illegally selling what you have no rights to. If you are doing the work to learn and to better the coommunity then fine. But if your intent is to make money I would suggest you find another site to hock your illegal wares. Let Smeg's warning be the last.
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Slacker,
I agree. Talking about the technology application on the old MPX200 is interesting but theft of protected material for commercial gain is going to far.
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Since when does "sharing" involve finacial profit?? If you are truely going to share what no one will ever be able to buy (since MS isn't selling it to MPX200 users) then fine, but don't say you're sharing and then charge money for it (especially when its not yours to sell). As much as I do find this topic interesting, I must also agree with abatis, Slacker and smeg36. Hopefully this thread doesn't have to close (as the topic is of high interest) but perhaps links to the infringing material should be removed instead?
darkoverlord: If you don't mind me asking, how did you come into contact with this ROM in the first place? I'm not asking for links or anything; no specifics. Did you pull it from another phone?
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If i do get hold of the file. How do i edit it to make it work on my phone ? QUOTE (KingDaddy @ Nov 30 2005, 04:11 PM)
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QUOTE (Sean @ Dec 1 2005, 03:11 AM) Wow, like that's not illegal... That guy has balls. Interestingly, the same guy started this thread...
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Look folks, I just wanted to say that this I can put this on other phones, but only from my system, as you have to be able to access the Microsoft VPN, so the fact that you guys are all crapping on me, about offering to upgrade your phones, the money is to cover the cost of shipping, and my time, that is it. I am not selling the OS, as I am quite aware that is not allowed.
Anyways, just thought I would put my 2 cents in, as everyone wants to say I am some chump, trying to scam people, and I really am not.
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No No No... We are not calling you a chump or anything else. It is just this, back in the day (alright it was a year and a half ago) when the MPx200 was king, we had quite a bit of traffic on this site from people looking to upgrade their phones to WM2003. We had quite a few people who were distributing ROMs and helping out in this endeavor. The result? We got our pee-pees slapped by Microsoft. Not officially but we were in effect told, stop or you will hear from our lawyer. Now that was not the first lawyer threat we got nor will it be the last however, I am much more afraid of MS Lawyer 2.0 than any fool that the old AT&T Wireless could send my way so we had to put an end tot the ROM business around here.
The rub for me is that even though I have never distributed a ROM (in any traceable sort of way) I am the HMFIC and by being that, I am liable for what happens here and I really can't let MGN adversely effect the Murphy family. Simple truth.
So short story long... I don't think you are a chump, heck I am impressed (although you never did answer my PM...) and think that a MPx200 with WM5 would rock but we just can't cross the line on distribution here.
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QUOTE (darkoverlord @ Dec 6 2005, 06:31 AM) Look folks, I just wanted to say that this I can put this on other phones, but only from my system, as you have to be able to access the Microsoft VPN, so the fact that you guys are all crapping on me, about offering to upgrade your phones, the money is to cover the cost of shipping, and my time, that is it. I am not selling the OS, as I am quite aware that is not allowed. Anyways, just thought I would put my 2 cents in, as everyone wants to say I am some chump, trying to scam people, and I really am not. DarkOverlord Hey Dark, Does the MPx200 function properly with WM5? Can you make and received calls with it since I've heard that radio wasn't completed the WM5 version of MPx200. Is the version of WM5 you are working with RTM or Beta version? Thanks.
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QUOTE as you have to be able to access the Microsoft VPN Maybe you could explain this a bit more to me. I, like Sean, would be terrified of MS sending their attack dogs after me. If you have to connect to their VPN to perform the upgrade, don't they have some way of logging who you are and how many times you are doing the upgrade? To quote a wise man: QUOTE That guy has balls.
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QUOTE (darkoverlord @ Dec 6 2005, 01:31 AM) Look folks, I just wanted to say that this I can put this on other phones, but only from my system, as you have to be able to access the Microsoft VPN, so the fact that you guys are all crapping on me, about offering to upgrade your phones, the money is to cover the cost of shipping, and my time, that is it. I am not selling the OS, as I am quite aware that is not allowed. Anyways, just thought I would put my 2 cents in, as everyone wants to say I am some chump, trying to scam people, and I really am not. DarkOverlord I don't think many of us are saying that you are directly scamming; In fact, your price didn't seem all that bad at all considering how rare it is to get WM5 on MPX200. Its more of the fact that you are getting for your time/efforts but the copyright holder/developers aren't getting paid for THEIR time/efforts spent developing the OS which many of us feel isn't right. Play time is play time; whether someone is profiting changes the situation entirely. I, personally, didn't know you needed MS VPN access to do this which makes a little more sence why you wouldn't be selling the upgrade. Either way, I must congratulate you on being able to install on any phone. That is an amazing accomplishment! Curious: How do you have access to MS VPN? You would have to know someone who works at MS, woudn't you? As smeg36 pointed out, you may want to watch out for logs...
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how did you manage to change resolution. wm 5.0 was created only for qvga screens meaning 320X240, mpx200 is only 220X176???
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QUOTE (1983 @ Dec 8 2005, 10:19 AM) how did you manage to change resolution. wm 5.0 was created only for qvga screens meaning 320X240, mpx200 is only 220X176??? Actually, WM 5.0 is resolution friendly. You can use it on any resolution you set it up for, it just happens that almost all the phones that are coming out with WM5 are QVGA. I have WM5 running on a SMT5600 (in the classifieds section if you want it) and it scales to 220x with no issues.
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QUOTE (Sean @ Dec 8 2005, 02:35 PM) Actually, WM 5.0 is resolution friendly. You can use it on any resolution you set it up for, it just happens that almost all the phones that are coming out with WM5 are QVGA. I have WM5 running on a SMT5600 (in the classifieds section if you want it) and it scales to 220x with no issues. im sorry, but wheres de classifieds section? thanx
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Hey... A question for those of you lucky WM5 MPXers: How is the signal when running WM5? I tested signal on WM2002 vs. 2003 (using MPX200) and I can say from my tests that the 2002 had noticably better signal (not a WHOLE lot...but enough to make it worth running 2002). Does WM5 appear to have better signal? Just curious (IMG: http://www.mobilegadgetnews.com/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ... I believe it has a different radio stack than 2003 (hopefully better). Thanks to all you beta testers!
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I wonder if we will ever get out hands on WM5. I do not want to be without my phone for two weeks by shippind it to the seller on ebay.
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Look on Ebay for it. You dont have to ship your phone anymore.
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QUOTE (samdogg @ Dec 19 2005, 07:19 AM) Look on Ebay for it. You dont have to ship your phone anymore. That chunks overboard the argument about charging 25 bucks for shipping the phone. In comparison, the 2003 upgrade was available for about 2 bucks.
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OK, I got WM5 to load onto my old MPX200. I'll describe the process I used but I won't provide any links. Basically the WM5 rom distro that I found was three .bin files, a flash program, and a process with which to flash these to the phone. Basically the instructions state that you need a key to run the flash program, and you have to pay someone through an ebay auction. But what they don't tell you is that you can use the motorola mobile upgrade wizard to flash these files to your 200. The key is converting them from .bin files to .img files using a chinese tool called mpx200_backup. Then just follow the process laid out in the instructions included with the distro. Here is a summary:
1. remove SD and SIM and connect device
2. flash with part1.img
3. disconnect and remove battery
4. replace battery
5. master reset
6. device ID should be displayed along with an error message
7. remove battery
8. replace battery
9. put in SD card (you need at least 32MB) and reconnect
10. flash with part2.img
11. flash with part3.img
12. disconnect device and remove battery
13. replace battery
14. master reset, but options are different now (choose clean reg hive and format storage)
15. wait until complete
16. enjoy
Note: I came across the mpx200_backup utility in a search for away to SIM unlock my phone without paying anything or screwing up the IMEI. I'm sure everyone here knows about the fix.img file that will SIM unlock your 200 but will also screwup the IMEI. Well using the mpx200_backup you can choose to backup the 256K part of the phone that holds the SIM lock and IMEI information. If you find the appropriate tool online to combine your backup and the fix.img file you can then flash that to your phone and remove the SIM lock without damaging your IMEI.
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QUOTE (SyubSnunb @ Dec 21 2005, 11:41 PM) OK, I got WM5 to load onto my old MPX200. I'll describe the process I used but I won't provide any links. Basically the WM5 rom distro that I found was three .bin files, a flash program, and a process with which to flash these to the phone. Basically the instructions state that you need a key to run the flash program, and you have to pay someone through an ebay auction. But what they don't tell you is that you can use the motorola mobile upgrade wizard to flash these files to your 200. The key is converting them from .bin files to .img files using a chinese tool called mpx200_backup. Then just follow the process laid out in the instructions included with the distro. Here is a summary: 1. remove SD and SIM and connect device 2. flash with part1.img 3. disconnect and remove battery 4. replace battery 5. master reset 6. device ID should be displayed along with an error message 7. remove battery 8. replace battery 9. put in SD card (you need at least 32MB) and reconnect 10. flash with part2.img 11. flash with part3.img 12. disconnect device and remove battery 13. replace battery 14. master reset, but options are different now (choose clean reg hive and format storage) 15. wait until complete 16. enjoy Note: I came across the mpx200_backup utility in a search for away to SIM unlock my phone without paying anything or screwing up the IMEI. I'm sure everyone here knows about the fix.img file that will SIM unlock your 200 but will also screwup the IMEI. Well using the mpx200_backup you can choose to backup the 256K part of the phone that holds the SIM lock and IMEI information. If you find the appropriate tool online to combine your backup and the fix.img file you can then flash that to your phone and remove the SIM lock without damaging your IMEI. yes!!!!! it work!!!!!!!!!!! thanks!!!!!!!
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Wow, good work SyubSnunb. How did you come up with that idea to convert them from .bin to .img files? I would have been so worried about flashing them and bricking my phone.
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Maybe it was my asking if that would work on HoFo on Monday...
I would have tried myself but I was already done. Beside, I don't have a spare phone. I need my PMx to work until Xmas when I can start using my new PPC6700!
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I was just reading through that thread. Looks like I'll have to pick up a MPx200 again. Anyone have one they want to sell for less than $50? I doubt it if you are reading this thread, but I can probably find one on ebay for that price after Christmas.
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Or before Christmas. I just picked one up for $41. I'll flash WM5.0 when it comes. Funny, my first WM5 device will be one of the older Smartphones I have owned.
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Dumb luck my friends... I was trying to SIM unlock the phone incase my wm5 upgrade on my SMT5600 bricked the SMT5600. When I found some chinese site detailing how to SIM unlock without killing the IMEI, I tried mpx200_backup along with another tool they provided to mesh the fix.img and a backup from your phone. Then I started searching boards, like this, one for info about wm5 on the mpx200. When I found the three .bin files I noticed the bin -> img function on mpx200_backup and figured I'd give it a shot. If i bricked the 200 I still had my SMT5600. Also what encouraged me is that the instructions in the three part bin installer stated you needed the key before ever even flashing any of the .bin's to the phone meaning the key probably had nothing to do with phone's "hardware fingerprint."
The only thing of note so far is that ActiveSync 4.1 will occasionaly never sync with the phone...it just says connecting for 10+ min. Unplug and plug back in and it works fine, don't know if any other users are seeing this with wm5.
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QUOTE (SyubSnunb @ Dec 22 2005, 04:52 PM) The only thing of note so far is that ActiveSync 4.1 will occasionaly never sync with the phone...it just says connecting for 10+ min. Unplug and plug back in and it works fine, don't know if any other users are seeing this with wm5. I had this "connecting" issue with my 200 with the cartman ROM. I reinstalled Active Sync (v3.8 I think) and it cleared up.
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i have install WM5 without a SD card but i can not boot up. So,
I guess i do need a SD card,right???
Nevermind, I went and got a 256mb sd card and it work great now.
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Yes. Part of the OS is installed on the SD card. Without it, it would be like trying to boot a PC that is missing the the HD the OS is on. There wasn't enough room on the ROM to install it all there, so they had to use the SD card to run part of it.
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Hello Everybody!
I have a problam installing WM05 on my mpx200. I followed the instructions, but after the part3.img was flashed, when i try to turn on and make the 2nd hard reset my phone display is black, actually i CAN NOT turn it on. And i cannot do anything.
By the way it is not dead, cause i can flash it again(supermoto2).
Maybe my phone is sim locked? Is that why i can not upgrade?
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-after part3.img
-disconnect device and remove battery
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I did it exactly the same way, but it does not work. I suppose that the new OS very sensitive the memory card(Kingston 128Mb). I will try an other one.
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QUOTE (smeg36 @ Dec 24 2005, 10:13 PM) Yes. Part of the OS is installed on the SD card. Without it, it would be like trying to boot a PC that is missing the the HD the OS is on. There wasn't enough room on the ROM to install it all there, so they had to use the SD card to run part of it. Ok, I understand that but I have did everything as the instruction said. I came to the boot option and i select yes for clean hiv and format storage but after that it stays on the white screen for a long time. I did a hard reset several times. I even tried to boot it up without did a hard reset and it stays on the splash screen.
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the white screen will go away after 20 minutes
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Yeah the white screen took some 7 min for it to go away for me... if your waiting longer than that perhaps you are having a SD card compatability problem... sorry I can't help any more
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but should it gave me an error if i did needed a SD card while i was flashing it??
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[WM5 does not sync
Hallo,
I flashed y MPX200. It was easy to do, the result is great. I would like
to use WM5 in future. But: It does not sync with Outlock. I have on one PC Win XP the other Win 2000. Normally I sync with the XP; ActyveSync 4.1 is installed. Everything is working fine with my PDA and the other smartphone. And it synced with the PX200 before the update. But now: "Found new device", "MS SmArtphone Device" and nothing happens. Then the Win Assistant whants to help me to install the new device. But I do not now which kind of driver to take.
At the Win200 PC it is nearly the same: The difference is that the green wheel is turning "connect device". So what to do, any help ?
Thanks in advance.
kerrynia
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kerrynia, I had the exact problem you are talking about the first few times I tried to sync the mpx200 with wm5 to activesync 4.1. It would say connecting... indefinately. I uninstalled and reinstalled 4.1, no luck. I tried opening activesync on the phone and having that application running on the phone while plugging it in. Eventually I started playing around with plugging the phone into different USB ports. Once again it seemed completely random, but I plugged it into a different one and let windows automatically install the ms smartphone drivers, and it worked. I hope this helps.
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also you can check out microsofts help for activesync... it talks about how "Since Windows Mobile 5.0 and ActiveSync 4.0 now utilize the Windows system TCP/IP stack for communication, the device connection will appear as a network interface and can be interrupted by a Network Connection Manager utility. Some utilities may mistake the ActiveSync connection as a valid internet connection and shut it down in favor of Wireless LAN connection." http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/hel...nc/default.mspx
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Hello, I have installed WM5 on my MPx200, and I was wondering where the SD Card is :S . I can't acces him from my filemanager, and not from the computer (when the phone is connected to activesync) . (IMG: http://www.mobilegadgetnews.com/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) How can I acces the SD card?
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QUOTE (jacobras @ Dec 27 2005, 10:26 AM) Hello, I have installed WM5 on my MPx200, and I was wondering where the SD Card is :S . I can't acces him from my filemanager, and not from the computer (when the phone is connected to activesync) . (IMG: http://www.mobilegadgetnews.com/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) How can I acces the SD card? You can't access the SD card because it's part of the system now. But, you still have the storage capacity of the the SD card.
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