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Rich Foreman
post Feb 14 2006, 03:14 PM
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Here is my situation:

I currently have a Blackberry 8700C (stop.. keep reading.. lol) with Cingular. My main reason for having this phone is to keep up with E-mail from the office and to perform IT Tasks from the road, home, etc.. using Idokorro Mobile Admin.

I am seriously thinking about getting the Cingular 8125 since it 'should' work using the new features of Exchange 2003 SP2 sometime in the near future. This will still give me 'push' email and the ability to wipe any sensitive data from the phone in case it is lost.

Are there any advantages or disadvantages between the 'free' push email solution with Exchange SP2 when being compared to Blackberry Enterprise Server?
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post Feb 14 2006, 03:35 PM
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You, and thousands of others like you are asking the same questions.

Of course you can get e-mail updated on a schedule (every fifteen minutes for example) today with Cingular and a Windows Mobile device. Push e-mail is where e-mail is sent to your device immediately when it is sent, and that has been the chief advantage RIM has leveraged with its Blackberrys.

One obvious advantage is that as a Microsoft application, we can assume Microsoft's push-emial will better integrate, and increasingly integrate, with their other services and offerings.

If you work in a corporate environment, it may be a good idea to talk to your IT department to understand what plans they are making for integrating Microsoft mobile e-mail. Or maybe they are looking at other vendors like Visto, Good, Seven, Intellisync or even Funambol's Open Source solutions.

Also, click here to learn more about Microsoft's recent partnership deals with Cingular. This is BIG news, and probably does more to hurt RIM than its patent disputes with NTP could ever do.


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post Feb 14 2006, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE (The Undude @ Feb 14 2006, 09:35 AM) *
If you work in a corporate environment, it may be a good idea to talk to your IT department to understand what plans they are making for integrating Microsoft mobile e-mail.


I am the IT Department smile.gif LOL I can implement whatever I want for Push email, etc..
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post Feb 14 2006, 06:18 PM
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Good Technologies have specifically announced support for Cingular 8100 series. And today Good anounced their "Mobile Defense™" with...

- Advanced Password Management, including protective action after excessive failed password attempts, protection for standard and third party passwords, and the enablement of temporary administrative passwords.

- Application Lockdown, including the ability to set and manage approved application "white lists" and application launch approval.

- Handheld Feature Control, including the ability to disable data transfer ports such as Bluetooth, Wifi or HotSync, and the ability to lock down handheld features such as cameras, microphones and speakers.

- Advanced Encryption Management, providing options to control the encryption of native handheld memory, storage cards, and specific applications using AES 256.

- Data Erase after excessive failed password and authentication attempts, as well as remote wipe of all handheld applications, including external media storage cards.


Perhaps that can work for you while you wiat for the good ship Microsoft to get their solution launched?

Alternatively, if you can wait, HTC today announced that all new devices (and I take that to mean presently unreleased designed) from them will incorporate the new Microsoft push solution.

I hope that helps.


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post Feb 14 2006, 06:23 PM
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Good Technologies have specifically announced support for Cingular 8100 series. And today Good anounced their "Mobile Defense™" with...

[i]- Advanced Password Management, including protective action after excessive failed password attempts, protection for standard and third party passwords, and the enablement of temporary



I do like the look of the Good product, but I cannot get a price anywhere.. I have called Cingular B2B, Good themselves, and a Good reseller in my area. No price given to me yet.

How is the Funambol? It seems to do what I want it to do, but is it worth my time to install?
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Personally, I couldn't say which products will best meet your needs. Nor do I have any direct experience or annecdotes to share about these solutions. But I hope pointing out what exists out there has helped you, and saved you some time.

Does anyone else have soem comments or experience to offer Rich?


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