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> Got a 700w..., pretty cool.
nickpoore
post Jan 9 2006, 07:54 AM
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Hey.

So, on Friday I got my 700w, with just enough time to pick it up and drive out to Vegas to go to the CES show. (Gotta have the latest gadgets when you hit the show.)

Anyway, for the most part, the phone is working great.
The only problem that I'm having is with my SSL certificate.

I have an SSL certificate from GoDaddy.com.
It's cheap, and it works on my PC.

However, the Treo does not recognise the cert as having a valid authoirty.
So, I manually installed the cert into the phone.
But, despite the cert showing up in the list of certificates, and despite me rebooting the phone, it continues to not trust my site.
Everything else does trust my site.

The only thing that this affects is my ability to use Exchange 2003 Server Activesync. I can verify that this works with SSL disabled, so it's not a server thing; also the server works fine from my PC, so it's definately a Treo thing.

I'll keep you guys posted on the solution.

Thanks.

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post Jan 9 2006, 03:14 PM
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Have you tried WM5 devices on it before? I recall they do something different with certificates than previous WM devices. Not being really knowledgeable with Exchange server, I can't really help you fix it. But it may be a WM5 thing, not a Treo thing.


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post Jan 10 2006, 08:28 AM
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Okay, I figured this out, despite no help from Palm on my 5 phone calls to them.

Basically, I needed to install the certificates, but needed to install more than one.

I went to my SSL website using Internet Explorer on my PC.
I then had an SSL logo (padlock icon) in the status bar.
If you double-click the padlock icon, you will see the certificate.

Once you are in the Certificates window, you can click on the CERTIFICATION PATH tab, and see all the certificates that are are in use.
In my case these were:
+ ValiCert Class 2 Policy Validation Authority
+ Starfield Secure Certificate Authority
+ mydomainname.com

I then clicked on each of the three certificates and clicked on View Certificate.
This brings up the same Certificate window (albeit three different ones.)
On each, click on the Details tab.
On the Details tab, click on the COPY TO FILE button.

When running the Certificate Explort Wizard, export each of the three certificates as a DER X.509 file.

Save all thee of these files, and transfer them to the Treo.
(I used an SD card, but activesync explorer would have worked fine.)

Once the files are on the laptop, open up the File Viewer, and click on each certificate.
You will get propted to install the certificate, click YES.

Reboot the Treo.

Now, everything will work.

To be honest, I'm not sure that I needed all three certificates, but it certainly worked with all three installed.

I hope this helps other PPC users, who want to go the cheap SSL route.

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post Jan 13 2006, 04:40 AM
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i'll have to remember this when i receive my new corporate 700w. nick - are you pleased with the performance of the 700w? have you tried the SDIO wi-fi card or is Verizon's EVDO service fast enough?


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post Jan 13 2006, 04:43 AM
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I have a Samsung i730 with built-in wifi, and have used it maybe all of 10 times in 5 months. Whenever I'm in an EVDO area, I don't see any reason to use wifi. EVDO is easier to use, just as fast (in most cases), and uses much less battery life. I don't think the lack of wifi is really a disadvantages unless you are in a non-EVDO area.


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post Jan 15 2006, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE (cortez @ Jan 12 2006, 08:40 PM)
i'll have to remember this when i receive my new corporate 700w.  nick - are you pleased with the performance of the 700w?  have you tried the SDIO wi-fi card or is Verizon's EVDO service fast enough?
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Yeah, just like SMEG said, the EVDO is pretty fast, at least on downloads.
Yeah, I sometimes think that a WIFI option would be cool, as I would be able to surf and talk at the same time, but then again, how often would I do that.
I also think that WiFi would be cool when I was playing with my phone at home, etc, but honestly other than saving battery life, I'm really not sure what the advantage would be.

As to the performance, yes, I'm getting used to it.
The first day I had it working with my Exchange server doing Exchange ActiveSync; I killed the battery in about 6 hours. But I had it syncing every 5 minutes, and was in a bad coverage area.
I have since changed it to sync every 15 minutes, and the battery lasts almost all day.
The battery life is the thing that concerns me most, and I have made a point of plugging in a car charger, and plugging in my phone every time I get into my car.

The phone has been pretty reliable, but when the battery has been low, I think I've turned off the phone by mistake. Then again, I did the same thing with my RazR, so there you go.

The cubis game is very addictive.

Honestly, the best thing I like about any MS phone is the fact that I can sync to my Exchange server over the air.
I had an MPX220 before this, and the Treo700w certainly works better.

Size wise, it's a little large, but again, I'm getting used to that.
I'd be very interested to see if I'll want to switch to the Q when that comes out, right now this thing is just working.

Oh, quick update.
I got a phone call this evening from one of my customers who needed to shut down their windows server as there was a scheduled power outage in their building in a few hours. After I hung up with him, i use the Terminal Server application to remote into his server and shut it down. How cool was that?!

There has been a bit of a learning curve with this phone, while I learn what keys do what, but I'm getting used to it, so there you go.

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post Jan 19 2006, 10:18 PM
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i can totally relate to the keys thing...how do you turn this thing off?


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post Jan 19 2006, 11:25 PM
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Are you joking, or serious? The button configuration does seem odd coming from other PPC/Phones. On my i730, the red end key has a power symbol, which turns the phone off if you hold it town. The Treo's red end call button has a power symbol, which turns off the screen if tapped lightly. It seemed kind of weird when I played with one, but if I remember correctly that is how the Palm based Treo's do it.


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post Jan 19 2006, 11:36 PM
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i'm serious...i hold down the power button and it says goodbye, then the display comes back on with the radio disabled. (i wish i was joking).


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post Jan 19 2006, 11:39 PM
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Are you referring to turning the screen off, or powering it completely down like a Smartphone? To turn the screen off, just press the power button once quickly. The way PPCs function, you can't power it completely down like a Smartphone. Turning the screen off is as powered down as it gets.


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post Jan 25 2006, 06:07 AM
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Yeah, just like SMEG said...

Pressing and holding the power turns the PHONE on and off, but not the PDA.
There is no way to turn off the PDA.

Just wait for the next time you're on a place and they ask you to turn it off.

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post Jan 30 2006, 04:56 AM
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i showed my 700w to a flight attendent (who asked to see it) and when she noticed i couldn't "turn it off", she asked me to pull the battery.


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post Jan 30 2006, 03:55 PM
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That's funny. Did you show her the phone dialer where it said flight mode? I've never had an attendent ask before. I guess the Treo's are easily spottable as a phone though, huh.


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