This has probably been posted before, but just in case.)
WM2005 for Motorola MPx200 upgrade guide
1. Make sure your phone is unlocked, if not download the unlock utility and unlock it.
2. Download the Motorola Mobile Upgrade Wizard v. 1.3.0
3. Download the three image files containing the WM 2005 upgrade. Part 1 should be 14,680 KB, part 2 should be 30,099 KB and part 3 should be 41 KB.
4. Install the Mobile Upgrade Wizard and follow the instruction to connect you phone. For now, just make sure the Upgrade Wizard can connect to you phone.
5. Get a 32 MB. SD card if you don’t already have one. Various cards apparently have problems when used with this upgrade, I have found that a standard speed Sandisk card of 256 MB. works the best.
6. Get some kind of a card reader so you can format the SD card, and format it but do not insert it in the phone yet.
7. You are now ready to start the upgrade after you have removed your SIM card if have not already done so.
8. Start the Mobile Upgrade Wizard and connect the phone. Start flashing it with the first image file. When the flashing is completed, disconnect the phone and remove the battery, replace the battery and do a master reset by holding down the big round blue button while pressing the power button. The phone will start up and go to a screen with some garbage about “This is a ROM for use by engineers and other authorized personnel”, after that it will display a screen with “Mobile Operator”, it will stay on that screen for quite a while so don’t get impatient and think that it is not doing anything, finally it will display the device id together with an error message (it is VERY important that you wait for that screen to come up, if you interrupt the process before that screen comes up you may as well start over). Remove the battery, replace the battery and insert you SD card. Start the Mobile Upgrade Wizard and flash part 2 of the image files. When that is done, leave the phone connected and start the Mobile Upgrade Wizard again. Flash the phone with part 3 of the image files and when it has completed, disconnect the phone and remove the battery.
9. Replace the battery and do a master reset. Now the screen will have three options, scroll down to “clean reg hive” and chose Yes by pressing the blue button, scroll down to “format storage” and chose Yes again. Scroll down to “Done” and press the blue button. The screen will go white and stay that way for a while (how long depends on the size of you SD card). Wait until it is done and then have fun with WM 2005 on your MPx200.
I just attached two screen shots of one of our MPx200 phones with WM2005
This has worked fine for me on several upgrades but I do not guarantee in any way shape or form that they will work for you so if you screw up your phone you have nobody to blame but yourself.
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Thanks for that guide. That is the exact process I used when upgrading, and it worked great for me.
I had to do a couple of re-installs because of some bugs in the WM5 roms.
Every once in a while it installs smooth; all the other times it continues to boot instead of turning of after the second reset. It "hangs" on a sim failure. What then?? Turning the phone of using the on/off switch (waiting long enough for the external display to switch off as well before turning the phone back on) doesn't work. The phone will not reboot.
Replacing the battery doesn't work either. I have to repeat the process until the phone turns itself off at the end of the second reset.
Any idea's how to prevent that??
If there where something wrong with my image files, then I wouldn't be able to install WM2005 at all. However as I said, the phone continues to boot Wm2005 during the second reset. At that point it doesn't find the sim-card (which isn't inserted). The error is the same as if you turn the phone on without the sim-card, or as in the other thread when the sim doesn't connect properly to the phone.
I'm doing two resets. As in the instructions, 1 after flashing image 1; the second reset after flashing image 2 plus 3.
Thing is, the second master-reset doesn't always work. If I do the reset directly after disconnecting from my laptop, it's fine all the time, but if I do a battery replacement in between, it will not.
Second thing I found out is, that if the SD card (or MCC for that mather) is not in my phone BEFORE I do the first reset, there is nothing on the SD card after flashing with the second and third image.
I will try changing my flash software back to the version you mentioned. I am using v1.8.5
I do let the phone (re)format the card on the second reset.
I still don't think its my image files. Otherwise why did it function a couple of days on my phone?? Just to be sure I tried downloading the image files form several sources. The files all have the same file-lenght, but some have a different creation date. Most come as "RAR" file, and the different sources have the same CRC32 so the images must be the same.
I'm trying flashing with v1.3 now
I can try that. Format the SD-card in the phone under MPX200. Is there a difference in the "format" when formating the card using my card-reader in my pc??
But once I have used the card in my phone I should be oke?? I have 4 different cards: a cheap 256 MB SD-card from PEAK, a 256 MB Kingston which shouldn't work but I got it working once. A 256 MB MMC Kingmax and a 1 Gb SanDisk.
I would like to use the SanDisk. Mainly for the size, but also because SanDisk cards should work best.
BTW: version 1.3 doesn't make a difference.
Ok everyone, I followed the instructions at the begining of this thread implicitly and the process of flashing my phone to WM 5 went precisely as described. HOWEVER, now my MPx200 will not boot up. When I turn the phone on it displays the "tree-lined lane" painting and never gets beyond that point. The backlight eventually times out, the screen goes dark, and the phone is completely unresponsive.
I've tried powering on after removing and replacing the battery, leaving the battery out for 30 minutes and then replacing it, powering on with the SIM card removed - no go. The phone appears to be dead, although it is displaying a very pretty painting that I can't see because the backlight is off. 8)
My SD card is a 256MB SanDisk by the way.
Any suggestions? H-E-L-P!!!
How long are you letting it sit on the tree screen during the boot. I've had to leave it sitting there, even with the backlight turned off, for 10 or more minutes. I recommend just letting it sit on that screen for a while and seeing if it will eventually boot. If it doesn't, try performing the hard reset as directed in the last step of the guide.
UPDATE: It finally booted up, but it took a full 18 minutes from the time I powered the phone on until I got the WM 5 home page. Is this normal? If so then it's certainly a deal-breaker for me and I'll have to go back to WM 2003. I can't wait 20 minutes for my phone to start up every time I power it on.
Great guide, I was going to post one of thse myself. WM5 sure does make the MPx200 a more functional phone.
Ok... I finally found 2 different WM5 images and I found one I heard had been tested. I FOLLOWED ALL THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THIS GUIDE TO THE LETTER. I just wanted everybody to know that for sure so as to not waste time goin over things that had already been done.
1st image went well. 2nd and 3rd images went well. However, after I complete the 3rd image, and replace the battery I am having a problem with that master reset. I select for it to do the "Clean Reg Hive" and to "Format Storage" then hit done. The screen goes white and stayed there. The screen stayed white for well OVER 3 hours. I did not want to mess with it as I was instructed to not do so.
You said;
"The screen will go white and stay that way for a while (how long depends on the size of you SD card). Wait until it is done and then have fun with WM 2005 on your MPx200."
So I let it sit there and nothing. I walked away and came back to it once after this long wait and there was no display. It was like the battery had gone dead. And after being in constant use for over 3 hours I kind of figured that was what happened.
I thought that it was just taking a long time because I have a 1gig SanDisk SD card. Nobody has posted how long it has taken with a card that size. So, now I put the SIM back in and try to boot up and all I get is the Tree picture then the phone dies.
So, what do i do now??? this sucks!
I am now doing as follows:
I let the phone charge for just a few minutes. Then I just made sure my SIM and SD were inserted properly and powered up my MPx200. I then plugged in the power while sitting on the tree picture, to see if it may be able to stay alive long enough to boot completely. I am now waiting. too see what happens. I will be refreshing this post while I wait. So, any suggestions may be helpful, or at least take my mind off how much this bites. (I will be MUCH happier when this is all over and I can start getting ALL out of my phone.
Thank you,
Sancho
OK!!! This is bullS**t. Sorry people... I'm pissed off now
HOURS LATER!!!! This crap still isn't working. Can somebody remind me why I am so interested in doing this anyway? What is the big deal with the piece of crap software anyway. WM5 = (W)ithout (M)obile for (5) hours or more. I have been workin on this damn thing ALL DAY. I am SOOOOO Frustrated.
I followed the directions AGAIN. And still stuck at white freakin screen after last reset for over 1.5 hours now. This is ridiculas. AND this time I chose NOT to format storage. So, I know that's not what is takin so long. All I chose on the final master reset was to clean reg... What happens after the white screen?? Anything??....
I just removed and replaced battery and now I am stuck at the damn tree screen again for over 45 minutes. (I have had this reply box open forever, just adding things in as I go. This is so stupid) Now I 'm sure somebody is going ot tell me I got a bad image. Well I downloaded the same one everybody else has from Kingswood... and EVERYBODY else who has seems to have NO problems. WHY ME??? Do I have to do anything else to the phone or battery or SD card or SIM card before starting this to prepair for this upgrade??? If so, please let me know. Thanks in advance for help you may offer. Later!
Going back to 2003 for now! At least IT worked!
Sancho
Motorola MPx200 upgrade to WM2005
This is an update to my original post on how to upgrade to WM2005
I have finished testing several ways to upgrade and also a 1GB. Sandisk SD card.
Now before everybody start going “that didn’t work for me/that worked fine for me”, please understand that I am only trying to share information with those of you who are interested in doing the upgrade to WM2005 or WM 5.0 as it is now called and I am not interested in getting in to a pissing match with somebody because he/she did, or tried to do something different.
As stated in the earlier post, I am only using unlocked phones and only brand new Sandisk SD cards. Don’t care what card you want to use, I have not tried any other brand so I don’t know anything about them.
Tried an upgrade on a locked unit with WM 2002 on it, it didn’t go, it croaked after flashing the first image.
Unlocked the phone and upgraded to WM 2003, installed Rescoe Explorer and formatted the 256MB. SD card.
Removed the SD card and flashed again with the first image file. This time everything went as expected, it behaved just as I described in my earlier post.
Inserted the SD card and flashed the other two image files (after clicking on “Finish” after the second image file has been flashed, I leave the phone connected and restart the Motorola Upgrade Wizard again. It will find the phone without you doing anything other than clicking through the same process as before)
I disconnected the phone and again it behaved just like it was expected to do as described in my earlier post.
I unlocked the register and changed the values as described under “Memory optimizing” in another post (Thank you to the person who posted that information).
The above described process was done with a brand new Sandisk 256MB. SD card and I have found that card to work the best. I did try a Sandisk 1GB. SD card and I learned something unexpected. With a 1GB. card some of the programs that I normmaly install do not install correctly and either don’t function at all or function with unexpected results (one of those programs is OmegaOne Battery Pack Pro for SmartPhone).
It turns out that the way programs are loaded on a 1GB. card is quite different from how they are loaded on a 256MB. card (go figure).
All of the phones I have tried the WM2005 on have booted up a little slower on the first boot but they run quite a bit faster than they did under WM2003 and so far every one of them has been rock solid.
This is only based on my experience with WM2005 on the Motorola MPx200 phones and I am only trying to share it as reference material.
I have also attached this same information as a MS Word document. Hope that is allowed.
worked great for me.. however, it doesnt show my sim contacts, but once it syncs, it shows the standard contacts, just not the ones from the sim card.. Any idea?
WoW...
WM5 on MPx200 is worst than Windows XP on Pii PCs. It is very.............. Slow....
I switch back to WM2003 with GSM Fix. Works Fine.
But for the MPx200 owner out there it is worth a try for trying the WM5 on your MPx200. It does have very good Iconed desktop like the PC have but it is simply not for the MPx200. I am using a Kingston 256MB Normal speed Card.
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Thanks for the nice guide, it works flawlessely on my MPx200.
Although I've encountered some strange things :
The signal strenght indicator on the front-display doesn't work anymore, it indicates that there's no service... however the signal strenght indicator on the upper right of the homescreen does work.
EDIT: Sorry I was using an non activated SIM, with an fully working SIM the front display indicator works.. /EDIT
Can't edit the registry with Mobile Registry Editor 1.1 (access denied when changing a value), but with Rosco (locally on the phone) I can. I've tried some tools to unlock stuff (basically the entire FAQ of MRE on breaksoft.com.) but it still doen't work.
I can't find the settings to change the appearance of the clock on the front display. (Does anyone know the registry settings for it? There used to be three modes. (The clock itself does work dough..)
Does anyone here got the same issue's or maybe knows a solution?
Thanx!
http://www.mobilegadgetnews.com/index.php?showtopic=10494&st=20
Read post #36 by AndrewSh
Thanks, all give it a go later, (I sort of misplaced my cardreader...)
Anyway I've found the way to change te appearance of the front LCD:
HKCU\ControlPanel\ExternalLCD\Style DWORD 1, 2 OR 3
1 = Analogue style clock
2 = Default Digital Clock 00:00 with date 00-00-0000
3 = Provider name e.g. Vodafone and Digital Clock 00:00
All other values are invalid (Display will only show SIM LOCKED, doesn't get updated anymore)
HKCU\ControlPanel\ExternalLCD\FlipLogo DWORD 0, 1
0 = Off, LCD will always show info
1 = On, LCD will only show info when the phone is closed.
Don't know if somebody else already posted this, but maybe this helps somebody.
I found a 23mb wb2005.img file, its just the one file, and when i try to flash, it hangs at 61%, using upgrade wizard. anybody got any suggestions?
I cant locate the 3 part rom, as the only other rom ive found is a 17.11mb rared file, which when extracted gives me part 2 and 3!!!
Like many others on here, I was having problems upgrading from 2003 to WM5 using a 1GB SD (Kingston). But when I put in a 16MB card I had sitting around, it flew through the entire process without any problem.
My question - is there a way to make an image of this SD card and clone it only the 1GB card? Just copying didn't seem to work, so I thought it might be some hidden files that are being dropped. The 1GB card works fine in 2003 and on my computer, in my camera, etc. SO I don't think it's a card issue (except the size which perhaps if I waited longer than the 5 hours I waited it might have worked)
Any ideas would be helpful.
David
speed can be helped by overclocking.. search for OmapClock v2 150Mhz does wonders
well I spoke a little soon.. just upgraded to WM5 and now when I run omapclock I get the error "Can't map I/O". This is the same error I get on one of my MPx220's. What is causing this? If you put the unit in silent mode it really helps the speed out tremendously..
little bit of research does wonders.. found the problem.. disregard the last post
Worked like a charm. I upgraded my Mpx200 with wm5. I used a kingston 512 mb card that i was previously using in my canon sd200 digicam. I formatted the card in the camera itself and just plugged it in to the phone. Working good for me :-). The whole procss took like 45 mins.
Okay, I have a question and a problem. When using Mobile Ugrade Wizard, I try to flash the first image file but I get an error message saying "Bad News: Software cannot be updated." Does this mean the files I'm using are bad?
Also if I were to go with WM2003, would it be the same process as listed here or could I just use Mobile Upgrade Wizard and flash one image file after the other without doing anything else?
Hello,
i have just bought a used MPX 200 and would like to update it. Everyone says download this download that but no one says where from. I have no software with the phone, absolutely none. Coul someone plesae be so nice and tell me where i get all the stuff needed to get the phone updated.
Thank you
It's against the board guidelines to post the files, or links to them, if they aren't officially supported. The files were never officially released, and thus aren't exactly legal to distribute. We'll help you all we can with the technical aspects of the phone, but you're on your own to find the files of questionable legality. Google makes this very easy.
I have spent the last few hours looking forthose files. No succes at all. If someone could help me by telling me where to get them i would appreciate it. If it violates the guidelines to post it here i am happy with a PM or mail too.
Thanks
What is the different between Motorola Mobile Upgrade Wizard v. 1.3.0 and Motorola Mobile Upgrade Wizard v. 1.8.3 setup? Which one should be used?
What is the best SD to use in term of capacity and performance? I think 256MB is no enough.
P.S. I took a few weeks to search them .
I was pretty sure the point of a discussion board is to help each other. If it is against the guideline to share something or even just to say where you can get it how is it OK to explain how to use the software. However, i am new here and it is not my place to set rules, i will ask somewhere where memver really want to help.
Hi, I have a great problem with my Motorola MPX200.Well, I have tried allmost evry ROM file.The latest is the 2005, that is structured with 3 .img files.The system works fine, but I have a problem when I call someone, when you hear the tone of ringing everything is ok, but when the callen person answers the connection goes down, the phone hungs up by him self.I have some susspisons on a ribbon cable, what do you think.
Best regards
I have some quick questions regarding the WM5 upgrade, I would really appreciate it if you guys could answer them for me
Instructions state that phone must be unlocked. I bought mine in another country and it works fine with any local phone operator. Thus, I assume this must imply that it is sim-unlocked. Right? Are there any other kinds of locks (for example, registry locks) that I should be aware prior to the upgrade?
Moreover, on the same issue, I have read a post that stated that problems may arise if phone has been unlocked by IMEI number instead of by software. As I stated, I bought mine unlocked and thus don't know how it was unlocked. Is it safe to perform a software unlock anyways?
Would SPVUnlock2 be the appropriate program for the above?
Is it ok to upgrade directly from 2002 to WM5?
Is there any way I can create a backup image of my phone in its current state as a failsafe if the upgrade fails?? What application would I use for creating such a backup image of the roms, etc?
My phone is only dual-band. I have seen posts explaining how to flash the last 256kb of the ROM to enable tri-band functionality on 1.8/1.9 AT&T MPx200s. Would I need to do this still if I upgrade in order to enable tri-band? If so, should I do it before the upgrade or after??
Regarding ActiveSync, any special considerations that should be taken into account?? Can I just uninstall 3.6 and then install 4.2 ???
Does upgrade enable MMS automatically??? If not, what must I do to enable MMS, and should I do it before the upgrade or after?
THANKS A MILLION
Already answered it in the other thread. Please don't double post, it isn't necessary. If someone can help you, they will. Thanks.
I have finally got the phone to acceot the update. The problem now is that once all images have been installed i need to remove/replace the battery. Does not work straight away, only after a few hours. After that the phone switched on.
The problem i have now is that whenever i turn off the phone it will not switch itself on untill i wait for a few hours with the battery outside the phone.
Anyone any ideas what to try?
It could be the SD card you're using. WM5 on the MPx200 is really picky about the SD card you use, and can cause problems like this if you are using one it doesn't like.
I am using a multimediacars. i do not have any sd cards. does this make a difference? I have tried many different ones from 32 mb over 256 to GB. Not one worked.
hey people, i just flashed mines to 2005 with a sandisk ultra II 256mb and its super fast and not sluggish, like some are complaining. I highly recommend using only that card for the upgrade, there is no need for a qtek 8500 unless you need bluetooth and slimness.
I'm using the Kingston 1GB Elite Pro High speed card and it works just fine.
I am new here and I've been looking around for some time and I FINALLY figured out how to upgrade my mpx200 to wm5. I want to thank everyone who provided info on how to do so.
I just have a couple questions. It takes a long time to boot (this I can deal with) but I was just checking to see if that was normal. And sometimes it kinda freezes anywhere from 5 to 30 secs. sometimes during calls. Also, how do I setup an internet connection? And last but not least, My computer does not see my phone when I plug it in to the usb. How do I add files, etc. to my phone?
I have Cingular (SIM) and SanDisk 256 SD
Thank You
Jda007
Yes, the slow boot is normal. I'm not sure about freezing during phone calls. To setup an internet connection with Cingular download and install the cab files in http://www.mobilegadgetnews.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=7148&view=findpost&p=32907. Do connect to your PC you need to install Activesync 4.0 or later. You can get it http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/downloads/activesync42.mspx.
I have ActiveSync 4.2 already. It worked when i had wm3 but not now?
Thus I can't install the cab files either. (Thanks for those)
Thanks in advance
**Ok I reinstalled ActiveSync and it now recognizes my phone, which somehow made my internet connection work, Amazing, just one more thing. How do I edit the registry keys, I want to change memory settings and do ANYTHING I can to speed up everything. It seems to lag alot. If there is ANYTHING ANYBODY can suggest about making it even a little faster or more efficient. I would appreciate it. Thanks again for your help smeg36.**
HELP!!! My phone will not boot. When I try to soft boot it, it freezes at the forest picture. I have tried all combinations of the hard boot and nothing seems to work. If anyone know anything please help me. I am trying to reflash it now and I will inform you of the result, but any suggestions in the mean time would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Jda007
**Ok I tried to reflash it and I followed all of the steps as I did the first time but after everything it just stays on the white screen at the end. What should I try before I make it a projectile? Any help would be MUCH appreciated. Thank You**
Would someone PLEASE send me a link to an "official" wm 2002 file so I can start over. I am slightly frustrated. Thanks
Jda007
There is no official ROM for the MPx200. You'll have to find is by unofficial means. I'd recommend trying out WM2003 though. It's a good balance between a new ROM and a stable ROM.
Just to let you guys know, i did the rom update as explaned in this post but i managed it with a 512mb Mini SD card in an SD adapter and it works just fine.
Gav
PS. Its a PQI Mini SD
If you followed all the steps as outlined here, used an unlocked phone with one of the SD cards that are recommended (many other cards work too) and did not get impatient along the way, there is no way that you would not have been able to flash your phone to WM5.
Most of the problems occur when somebody gets impatient, especially after the first part of the ROm where you have to wait a LONG time for the error screen to show up and also after the last image file where you have to wait for the phone to reset.
Are you absolutely sure that you have the right WM5 ROM?
Did you make sure to remove the SD card before flashing part1 of the ROM, did you format the card before starting the process and did you remove your SIM card before you started?
You need to format the SD card before you start.
I always format the card using Rescoe Explorer under WM2003 before I start doing an upgrade.
By now I have probably upgraded well over 100 MPx200 phones with a regular 256MB or 1GB Sandisk SD card without any problems at all.
If you continue to have problems and really want WM5, ship me your phone and I will upgrade it for you for free.
Make sure that the Moto Upgrade Wizard does recognize your phone if you want me to upgrade it for you, I don't want to be accused of turning any phone in to a paper weight.
No problem.
I was actually responding to jda007 because it looks like he/she has got some problems.
Thank you all very much. Here is a summary of my experience:
I HAD wm5 up and running and I really don't know what happened but it just froze. I formatted the SD in my camera before I upgraded but now my camera won't read it so I can't format it again and I have tried to reflash it twice since then to no avail. I am now unable to format the SD card. Do you think this is the problem? I am trying to find a way to format it.
Thanks again
Jda007
I finally was able to flash my mpx200 back to wm2003 which is working great for all I need it to (besides the not so good signal strength). Are there any options besides firmware that would increase my signal strength (even a little bit)? Thank you all for your help. I have a wonderful FUNCTIONING mpx200 again.
Jda007
Unless you are an antenna guru it would be hard to improve the lousy antenna the MPx200 comes with.
You may want to take a look at the antenna design they use in the Panasonic GD55 with the built-in antenna.
It is only available in a few aftermarket housings but it does work great.
Thanks I'll check into that...
jda007
hello to everyone.
I have upgraded my MPx 200 to wm2005 with the idea to unlock the 900mhz band... no luck, can someone tell
me the procedure and which firmware / rom should i download?
Regards and thank you very much
PEFL
PabloE
Telephone should be WM2003 (Supermoto2 - ver.3.70.23)
Read the forum!!!
http://www.mobilegadgetnews.com/index.php?showtopic=10893&st=0&p=47052&#entry47052
I just registered myself now to thank the big guy ardec1 who made it very easy to have win5 in MPX200.
Appreciate it very much
TIA
Hi, i've seen this topic for the first time and my MPX200 runs quiet slow, that's why i took a chance of installing WM5. I've done everything according to the manual and now i got the last screen. Then the white display came. The white display is on now for almost 45 minutes and does nut turns of or something. What should i do know? Let him do his job by waiting or do i have the same problem as someone else in this topic with a 1 GB card? I have a 1 gb apacer card. What should i do know?
Thnx in advance =)
Hi everyone, long time reader first time poster here.
I've just bought a MPx200 because I wanted a smartphone with Windows and so far I can't fault-find it but I've heard that there is an upgrade to Windows Mobile 2005 for it. Now I have looked and read through this thread, but I can't find the link anywhere to the Motorola Mobile Upgrade Wizard!
Could someone link me - that would be fantastic
Thanks in advance
James
can anybody help me find wm5 for mpx200?
thanks in advance
The best we can tell you is to search Google. When you read the board guidelines to sign up for membership, it stated we don't allow requests for ROMs. the WM5 ROM was never released my MS or Moto, so it isn't legal ti distribute.
Hi and thanks to you all!
The wm5 upgrade went so easily, and I'm very happy to have a wm5 mpx200!
Thanks again everybody for the great advice!
plantman60
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