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> Mapopolis + Garmin GPS10 + MPX220 Success, Garmin GPS10 "Sensor only" unit: $150
vattiat
post Apr 9 2005, 04:08 PM
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I'm happy to report that I have a Garmin GPS10 operating over Bluetooth with Mapopolis on my MPX220.

The registry fix first described in another thread on this site is required:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Bluetooth.Values.IsBthVCOMActive => 1
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Bluetooth.Values.IsBthVCOMSetup => 1

Setting Mapopolis GPS COM Port: COM6
Baud Rate: 38400

I bought the "sensor only" version for $150 - it comes with no software, but to my knowledge Garmin doesn't make Smartphone software anyway.

The sensor itself is pretty solid and supposedly waterproof to some degree. One warning though, the sensor only unit comes with an automotive charge adapter - not a wall plug. At least the 5V@1A plug is fairly common.

I don't have experience with many other GPS recievers, so I can't comment on it's accuracy or reception relative to the competition, but my experience last night playing Frisbee in an open field and driving in a moderately heavy developed area (Boston/Brookline) indicated that this is a realistic option for navigation and recreation.

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post Apr 9 2005, 08:20 PM
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Thanks for the info. I'm ordering one.


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post Apr 10 2005, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE (mkestu @ Apr 9 2005, 03:20 PM)
Thanks for the info. I'm ordering one.
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I got it working with an $80 Altina Bluetooth GPS that I got from eBay... and works flawlessly! I usually connect to 10 different satellites.

Except my setting are 2 & 2...
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post Apr 10 2005, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE (O1Coupe @ Apr 10 2005, 02:11 AM)
I got it working with an $80 Altina Bluetooth GPS that I got from eBay... and works flawlessly!  I usually connect to 10 different satellites.

Except my setting are 2 & 2...
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What software are you using?


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post May 9 2005, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (vattiat @ Apr 9 2005, 11:08 AM)
I'm happy to report that I have a Garmin GPS10 operating over Bluetooth with Mapopolis on my MPX220.

The registry fix first described in another thread on this site is required:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Bluetooth.Values.IsBthVCOMActive => 1
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Bluetooth.Values.IsBthVCOMSetup => 1

Setting Mapopolis GPS COM Port: COM6
Baud Rate: 38400

I bought the "sensor only" version for $150 - it comes with no software, but to my knowledge Garmin doesn't make Smartphone software anyway.

The sensor itself is pretty solid and supposedly waterproof to some degree.  One warning though, the sensor only unit comes with an automotive charge adapter - not a wall plug.  At least the 5V@1A plug is fairly common.

I don't have experience with many other GPS recievers, so I can't comment on it's accuracy or reception relative to the competition, but my experience last night playing Frisbee in an open field and driving in a moderately heavy developed area (Boston/Brookline) indicated that this is a realistic option for navigation and recreation.
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I recently picked up a Garmin GPS10 ... found it worked ok with Microsoft Streets and trips 2005. Then I tried Mapopolis .. and it didn't find the GPS10. I Found the Registry modification information here and I made the changes. Mapopolis found the GPS10 after I made the changes. When I shut it down and tried it later .. it didin't find the GPS10. I checked the Registry .. and the second Key had changed back to 0 .. so I changed it back to 1. But even after I did that it couldn't find the GPS10.
Do you think I need to sever the pairing(between the phone and the gps10) --- power cycle and rediscover the GPS10?
Once Mapoplolis finds the GPS10 .. will it always? Does Streets and trip .. change the access for the GPS10
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post May 9 2005, 07:23 PM
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Jazzy-

I think regardless of whatever issue you are having, as a general rule you should re-pair the GPS reciever after you change the values in the registry.

As for why Mapopolis could not reconnect when you restarted the application is a bit of a mystery to me. As a test, I just opened Mapopolis and connected to GPS. Then disconnected, closed Mapopolis, and opened Bikedo, connected GPS in Bikedo, then disconnected and closed Bikedo. Then re-opened Mapopolis and reconnected to GPS, no problem. I did the same procedure with Mapopolis and OutdoorNavigator. Still no problem, so I don't think using other software with the GPS reciever causes any problems for Mapoplis.

I have also power-cycled my phone a couple times recently and I don't need to re-change registry values or re-pair the devices.

However, I did check my registry and noticed that the values for the Bluetooth keys were set to "2". I remember playing around with this when I first got everything running, but I can't remember why I have those keys set to "2". Anyway, you might give that a try (changing the Bluetooth registry values to "2" and re-pairing the GPS)

Good luck, let me know if you need any comparison testing.
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post May 9 2005, 10:03 PM
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What firmware are you guys using?


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post May 10 2005, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (mkestu @ May 9 2005, 10:03 PM)
What firmware are you guys using?
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I'm using 1.3 - Hopefully not for long though!
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post May 10 2005, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (vattiat @ May 10 2005, 07:29 AM)
I'm using 1.3 - Hopefully not for long though!
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1.3 too ... and I played with it for about an hour last night .. And I didn't get it to work .. I must be doing something wrong. (*looks around* I didn't really say that. Me not getting something to work. What would my friends think!)
I will play with it again.

Thanks for the info!!!!

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post May 11 2005, 01:17 AM
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Yippie .. got it working.

Thanks
*fingers crossed* lets see if it works later


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post May 11 2005, 04:00 AM
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OK .. I think I am closer to getting it working .. most of the time ...
ActiveSync ... will screw with the settings ...
When I tried to activate the GPS after I used active sync .. it said the com port wasn't available .. did I want to do a softreset.
After that the values were hosed!

So I deleted the pairing with the gps and started over including reseting the registry keys ...
and it worked
I guess I need to do a reboot after I use active sync


grrrrr
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post May 13 2005, 08:49 AM
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Hello. Where did you guys get your mapopolis? which place is cheap? I've been thinking about checking it out too. buygpsnow.com has some good deal on gps too. Ebay is probably the cheapest place.
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post May 13 2005, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE (InfernoVietBoi @ May 13 2005, 08:49 AM)
Hello.  Where did you guys get your mapopolis?  which place is cheap?  I've been thinking about checking it out too.  buygpsnow.com has some good deal on gps too.  Ebay is probably the cheapest place.
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I got Mapopolis at Mapopolis.com, I bought the GPS reciever at MegaGPS.com.
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post May 15 2005, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE (InfernoVietBoi @ May 13 2005, 03:49 AM)
Hello.  Where did you guys get your mapopolis?  which place is cheap?  I've been thinking about checking it out too.  buygpsnow.com has some good deal on gps too.  Ebay is probably the cheapest place.
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Mapopolis the Application is completly free, but you have to have a subscription to get maps, and it is like $99 a year, but the maps will work forever. I had it for a year and think I will be fine with my maps for a few more years then I will subscribe again to update all my maps. Those are my thoughts...


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post May 23 2005, 08:01 PM
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Just got the GPS-10 Garmin Bluetooth receiver and it linked direct to my MPX220 without having to edit the reg I do not have the map software yet as I am waiting for the TomTom Nav5 software tobe released sometime tthis month.
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post May 29 2005, 12:16 AM
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Why does the title say Mpx200? Typo?
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post May 30 2005, 06:25 PM
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Yeah, the "MPX200" was a typo, we're using MPX220's here.

Couldn't figure out how to change to topic heading after posting.
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post May 31 2005, 05:01 AM
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Not to beat a potentially dead horse here but.... what are your opinions regarding BT GPS units?
I once saw a review of different BT GPS untils (I think it was Tom's Hardware). If I recall the Tom Tom was very nice.

What is the selling point for you guys? I am partial to rechargable battery (Li-Ion), water proof/resistant and magnetic base.

Before I sink yet another wad of cash into smartphone stuff, I want to better understand what is available.

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post Jun 16 2005, 01:40 PM
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Well I didn't feel like doing real work today anyway...so here's a list of specifications for the Garmin, TomTom, and Socket (see attached Excel sheet).

Frankly, since all the physical dimensions are reasonably same, I would base a purchase decision on the acquisition times.

I bought the Garmin unit, and while it's waterproofing and overall physical design are significant for outdoor use, waiting five minutes for the reciever to "warm up" is like waiting in the shower for your conditioner to soak in. I'm not patient enough for either.
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