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Posted by: Xeno

I tried out the "answer any key" setting and liked being able to push the external rewind key and immediately get a speakerphone call. But I'm in the middle of a trip now and I had to change make to the original setting where opening the flip answered the call esp when driving around a metro not known to me.
Anyway to have both or do I just change setting depending on what I think I may most need that day or week?

Posted by: GrYph0n

Haven't messed with that too much to see if something can be changed in the registry, but I at the moment that is the only way to answer in speaker phone.

Posted by: Xeno

Right, but you don't see any way to toggle between the two answer modes without going into start ... ?

Posted by: GrYph0n

No, there is no real way to toggle that without going into start>settings>phone>answer mode .

Now for those of you that didn't know or figure it out already, if you have your 3125 (any star trek) set to any button answer vice open to answer then you can use your rewind button to answer your phone in speaker phone mode.

Posted by: Xeno

I got this suggestion about how to hack the registry that I am quoting another person:

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You can have the rewind button answer and open on answer both active, but only through registry editing. Set both of the following keys:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Phone]
"AnyKey"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\Phone]
"OpenToAnswer"=dword:00000001

I only tried it for a short time, so it may reset itself (especially if you went into that part of the setup). Cycling power did not reset it, however.

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Anybody see any problems with this registry hack? Or is it likely to be easily reset by whatever means?

Posted by: omega2008

Give it a try and see what happends. If it doesn't work you can always change the keys back.

Posted by: Xeno

I got distracted during the middle of doing this so all I know for sure is that when I turned the phone off and back on that it reset to the default values. At some point, and here is what I don't remember, the volume for my speakerphone was low --when using the external rewind button -- but now it is back to normal (at least when I have the flip open and use the menu to get to the speakerphone). I checked the side button on the phone (set to high)and the volume settings for phone...normal (set to loud) so I'm not sure what happened.

Edited to say now when I set answer mode to "any key" and use the external rewind" to answer the phone that the volume is way too low to use. And there is also an echo. Any ideas how to restore the rewind/speakerphone volume to its original volume?

See Omega2008, the reason I was hesitant to attempt this hack is that I don't know how to repair the damage when things go wrong.

Edited to say I just discovered that if I have it set to answer with any key and I use rewind that the speakerphone is low, but if I simply open the flip, go to the menu and select speakerphone then the volume is normal. Hmmm

Posted by: runningtiger

Sorry that in your research to fix the problem you're having that you didn't read any warnings regarding caution when it comes to registry editing. Whenever one makes the decision to mess around in the registry one should also make certain not to become distracted. It is possible to brick your phone if things don't go right.

You SHOULD be able to return your phone to exactly how it was when it came out of the box by performing a hard reset on your phone. I don't have a phone like yours, so I can't tell you how to do it. However, it may be like my phone since mine is also an HTC wm5 device. Check on your start menu for "clear storage". The icon looks like a trash can. If you find it, select it and follow the directions. This will restore all factory defaults AND erase ANYTHING you've added to the phone or any settings you've changed. Your storage card will not be erased, so that's safe. There is probably another method to perform a hard reset in case you can't get to your start menu. If you find reference to that method somewhere, you could do it that way too.

Good luck!

Posted by: Xeno

Is there a way to backup the registry so it can be returned to the last save when things go wrong?

I knew to be careful. The distraction didn't put my phone at risk, but muddled my memory.

I have two concerns about doing a hard reset. One is that I read a post by someone who used the speakerphone with the rewind button and he never got a normal volume. So It is conceivable that nothing other than finding the problem with the registry will fix the problem. The other mentioned earlier is a complex hack I did that I am not sure I can repeat.

Posted by: Xeno

I used the Cingular online chat to ask for assistance and they gave me the phone number for HTC. I called HTC and he said there are no other settings that would make a difference between using the speakerphone with the rewind key or selecting by the menu. He suggested I exchange the phone.
Since the only problem I've had with this phone is because of what I've done, I would then first try a hard reset and if it doesn't work just hope the next phone is as trouble free as this one has been.

Posted by: runningtiger

Sprite Backup will let you make a backup (or, many backups) and then if you want to "undo" something you can just restore your phone to a prior backup before you did the thing you want undone. It works great and gets many positive comments on these boards. Check them out here: http://www.spritesoftware.com/

Posted by: Xeno

Thank you. But it looks like I am one step past where I want to save a back up that can be restored. However, if I start over with a hard reset then I need to use this program to make saves along the way so that when something goes wrong I can fix it.

Posted by: runningtiger

Exactly...and, unfortunately. Live and learn right?!!

I made several backups as I "built" my phone this last time. The first stuff I put in my phone was the stuff that would always be the same. My first backup was after I unlocked it. The second was after adding all my personal info. The third after key mapping reg edits for pIE. Next was after the camera date folder reg edit. Etc. etc. After each thing I'd do, I'd make a backup so I could always step back one step if need be. It gives you great peace of mind to know that you can undo that one thing that messed up. I don't think I'll ever have to go back to square one and what a relief THAT is!

I did many hard resets before I FINALLY got Sprite. It's a very worthwhile purchase.

Posted by: GrYph0n

About this speaker phone not being loud, I have a few theories on it. I tried it out once and decided it wasn't a big deal or for me. I think the design for it is so that you can answer via handsfree device or something like that. I have set mine to any key answer, and not modified the registry in anyway, and honestly it sounded like the other person was coming through the actual earpiece of the handset vice the actual speaker for music and speakerphone. Since it was so quiet on the phone that I tried it on (can't remember which one, but I am on 3125 #3, and it may have been my smartflip). I guess I could give it another shot and see what my results are.

Posted by: runningtiger

I must have missed something! Why are you on your third 3125???

Posted by: Xeno

You may be right about the voice coming through the earpiece of the headset, but prior to the registry hack, the volume for rewind/speakerphone was quite good. As I say, I can still get normal volume from the speakerphone by using the menu and selecting speakerphone even during a call that I started by pushing the rewind button. I learned about doing this from a group that had it working normal on their 3125s.
The changes that I made which went back to default after off/on are minor so I'm confused what else was changed that made me loose a feature that I used.
Of the two registry entries above, would you look at the first one and see if the default is "0" or "1" please?
Thanks.

Posted by: Xeno

If I do a hard reset or get the volume working or do an exchange, I will buy Sprite and go from there.
BTW, if a hard reset doesn't work and I do an exchange will then send me a new phone or will it be refurbished?

Posted by: runningtiger

I have no experience with this. I suggest asking them. Good luck!

Posted by: Xeno

Well I did a hard reset and no difference when using the setting "any key" and pressing the rewind key for the speakerphone. Very disappointing. I dread going through the process of getting another phone.

Posted by: GrYph0n

1st one had a really loose and weak hinge so I exchanged it for a more solid one. The 2nd recently developed connectivity problems that would prevent me from using data after a soft reset (tried hard reset, got a new SIM, Contacted Cingular Data/PDA support, Contacted HTC Support, etc, and nothing would get it how it should be even with messing with, removing, and reinstalling proven and working data settings), so on day 30 I exchanged it for my now 3rd. None of my issues have ever been mentioned elsewhere so I didn't see the need to post about it until now

Posted by: runningtiger

I don't have a 3125 (yet ) so I haven't been to other forums to read much about the phone. Your post was the first I'd seen that gave me pause! Hopefully, for you, third time is a charm! I had a similar problem as your #2 3125 but with my MPx220. Finally, being brave enough to flash the ROM fixed it...since it wasn't exchangeable like yours. Thanks for the info!

Posted by: Xeno

I only have 6,200 KB of memory left. Do you know howmuch Sprite uses?

Posted by: Xeno

The hard reset did not work nor did exchanging my phone for another one. Very disappointed since it once worked on the first device until I tried a suggested modification.

I originally learned about this feature from a post (elsewhere) on 9/20 where the HTC faq was quoted. I don't know if they have changed the faq since then but when you go to http://www.america.htc.com/support/cingular_3125_FAQs.html here what you are told:
How can I answer an incoming call without opening the handset?
Press the left (rewind) key on the outside of the phone. This is especially useful if you are using a wired headset.

As we have all noticed, the sound is comone from the earpiece. When I asked a Cingular store rep what to do, he said ask those who posted and said it worked for them to see if they got them from a particular location. The rep called his super who in turn contacted HTC who said they did not expect rewind to activate the speakerphone.
So I'll just have to wait to see if this is added in a future ROM update or some third party software.

Posted by: runningtiger

Drag. I agree with the Cingular store rep, go back to "elsewhere" and try getting whoever has done it to help you.

BTW, it's OK to say where you got the info and to post a link to the thread. It'll help others know what you know if they're interested.

Posted by: Xeno

The elsewhere was the Cingular/HTC forum on the Cingular web. I thought rules prohibited such outside links. Sorry. Here's the link to the original discussion: http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=18163&query.id=123947#M18163

I've sent these folk PMs and no response from any of the primary three.

Runningtiger, did you see my query (above) about having enough memory to run Sprite?

Posted by: GrYph0n

We have no problems at all with outside links as long as they are relevant to the topic, and will be helpful for others. We are all about helping others and others helping others

Posted by: runningtiger

No. Sorry, I missed that. Here you go...

After a hard reset, my device said:
26,676 KB free memory before loading Sprite onto my device
26,280 KB free memory after loading Sprite onto my device

Posted by: fowen

This might help you guys but I am not 100% sure. Maybe it will give you some more info to find the proper registry key.

Using Microsoft Voice Commander on the 3125 the "Announce" feature also has the same issue. When the phone is closed it broatcasts on the internal speaker. For me this is perfect because I don't want everyone in the world to know who is calling me but for others it was a PITA.

If you look here - http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=7987396&postcount=84 you will see some instructions on how to make MSVC broadcast on the external speaker.

I am not sure if this will help or not but figured I would post the information anyway.

Posted by: Xeno

Thanks Fowen. I can see how the hack would improve sound as you describe it. However, I don't know enough about smartphones to know if it would address my original question that started this thread.

I have given up on the idea of being able to do both modes since the registry hack that I picked up from the Cingular forum made me loose the speakerphone when I answered with the rewind key. That is, when I had the answer mode set to "any key" and the phone answered with the external key it gave me the normal speakerphone volume. Now after the hack to get both modes to work, I can't get back to the "rewind speakerphone" feature that I liked and the same is true of the replacement phone that I now have.

I originally got this idea about the "rewind speakerphone" from someone who quoted the the HTC faq. I don't know what the HTC faq said back in Sept when they posted this in the Cingular web, but now all the HTC faq promises is that the rewind key helps if you are using wired headsets. Well I don't wear those all the time, although I do put them on when I make a long distance call that will not be brief.